Apple vs. Facebook & Google

[Alex Snyder]

If you are not aware, a war is brewing because Apple is removing functionality from its operating systems. The claim is to protect consumer privacy as too many apps are utilizing consumer data for nefarious purposes. Apple sticks to advertising, but one must wonder what else may be going on.

In Q4 2020 earnings call Facebook just had, Zuck attacked Apple as their greatest threat and competition. And Apple is now threatening Google by saying they are going to remove them from the list of choosable search engines for Safari users.

One things is for sure, advertising is going to get more complicated. Dealer Authority had a thread about Apple's iOS 14 update.

 

[craigh]

As much as I am against "advertising is going to get more complicated", I am also a consumer that uses a VPN, Mozilla's Facebook container, an Android phone with a VPN, etc. The real threat here is the level of tracking that Google and Facebook continue to do - I think they're right to start blatantly calling each other out.

That said, Safari removing Google as a search option just ensures that everyone installs mobile Chrome, Brave or Firefox on their iPhone.

 

[Alex Snyder]

As much as I am against "advertising is going to get more complicated", I am also a consumer that uses a VPN, Mozilla's Facebook container, an Android phone with a VPN, etc. The real threat here is the level of tracking that Google and Facebook continue to do - I think they're right to start blatantly calling each other out.

That said, Safari removing Google as a search option just ensures that everyone installs mobile Chrome, Brave or Firefox on their iPhone.

Apple Is Building Its Own Search Engine To Rival Google Search​

https://www.techworm.net/2020/10/apple-search-engine-rival-google.html

Apple is stepping up efforts to develop its own search technology as US antitrust authorities threaten multibillion-dollar payments that Google makes to secure prime placement of its engine on the iPhone.

 

[Jeff Kershner]

Duck Duck Go acquisition? I hope not.

@craigh I agree, the threat is real. I've been using Duck Duck Go for a few years now. ExpressVPN for mobile and desktop but I have NOT aware Mozilla's Facebook container. I'll be checking that out. Thanks!

 

[craigh]

Apple Is Building Its Own Search Engine To Rival Google Search​

https://www.techworm.net/2020/10/apple-search-engine-rival-google.html

I'm a religious Bing user lol
I'm not here to say it works well, but they give me Microsoft Reward points to use it and Google gives me sweet F all, so M$ won this round.

A large part of my strategy is distributed data too - my Macbook I use Chrome, my Windows laptop I use Brave and my Desktop uses Firefox.
I try not to connect all my stuff together, which should at least help make my data useless.

Somehow, through all my precautions, Facebook still has me nailed:

 

[ChrisR]

I'm a religious Bing user lol
I'm not here to say it works well, but they give me Microsoft Reward points to use it and Google gives me sweet F all, so M$ won this round.

A large part of my strategy is distributed data too - my Macbook I use Chrome, my Windows laptop I use Brave and my Desktop uses Firefox.
I try not to connect all my stuff together, which should at least help make my data useless.

Somehow, through all my precautions, Facebook still has me nailed:

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If you use the same network for any of these devices, you are connected.

 

[craigh]

If you use the same network for any of these devices, you are connected.

That's what the VPN is for.
PrivateInternetAccess has no logs and has a long list of countries to choose from. Different country on every device guarantees no overlap.

 

[ChrisR]

That's what the VPN is for.
PrivateInternetAccess has no logs and has a long list of countries to choose from. Different country on every device guarantees no overlap.

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Missed that part, unless, of course, the devices were ever on the same network.

Reminds me, I need to throw up a VPN, and see if I can access my BTC wallet, that is no longer accessible via US servers lol

 

[Jim K]

Apple Is Building Its Own Search Engine To Rival Google Search​

https://www.techworm.net/2020/10/apple-search-engine-rival-google.html

"Tim Cook May Have Just Ended Facebook - Looks like it's no more Mr. Nice Guy."

Tim Cook May Have Just Ended Facebook

Looks like it's no more Mr. Nice Guy.

www.inc.com

As much as this makes for great headlines and drama, I don't believe for a second Apple is squeaky clean and is not engineering multiple ways to monetize user behavior and data. The search engine you mention is a good example, Alex .

 

[Alex Snyder]

This just hit my inbox: