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Google Enters Into The Automotive Lead Business

Joe, you are never on vacation!   JQ, they are definitely going to step on some toes here.  Will the OEM's move to this model?

I would like to know what the 3rd party lead collectors are thinking because it is directly competing with some of the largest PPC spenders in automotive, like and Edmunds.   What about Tier 2 Ad Agencies?

Dealers who participate in these new ads may be doubling up their PPC spending for certain keywords.  I need to better understand how this will and what keywords kick this ad in.
For example, running Adwords and Adwords Express at the same time, which I recommend, needs a strategy.  Keywords that kick-off Adwords Express ads like dealer name and brand, should be eliminated from Adwords.  This of course is based on the believe that advertising your ratings is a stronger ad than a normal Adwords ad.   So in the same way, you will have to see how strong of a lead generator these ads will be.Will consumers shopping for a car have the same desire to fill-out these leads forms as those shopping for a mortgage?  

Joe, what say you...

Google Enters Into The Automotive Lead Business

Brian -- do you foresee that dealers now either directly engaged in PPC or engaged through a vendor will be competing against Google in the current space?   Or will this be more of it's own classified venture, ala Cars.com and AT, with Google's auction-based PPC model contained within the new program?

Google Enters Into The Automotive Lead Business

Google is starting to look like one of those companies that isn't quite sure what business they're in. They run the network and have, step by step, become less agnostic and begun to compete with their own customers - the Advertisers like TrueCar/Edmunds/AutoTrader and the like. I'm very keen to see what reaction the industry will have to this step.

Google Enters Into The Automotive Lead Business

In February 2010 Google made a presentation to a select group of industry leaders about their foray into automotive lead generation. I was not in attendance but I was briefed on the program at the show. I never heard any more about the details until today's post in Automotive News.

I am sure that Google has briefed the major automotive vendors that run Adwords campaign for thousands of car dealers about this change. However the larger community needs to know about this major shift in new car lead generation strategies.

In my opinion, this is a major SHIFT for the Google Automotive team which has not gone into direct vehicle lead generation until now. I look forward to interviewing and discussing this new program with the Google Automotive Team at the 2012 Digital Marketing Strategies Conference.

Lead Generation Is Not New For Google

Google has been running lead generation campaigns for other vertical markets, like mortgages. If you look at the screen capture below, Google is running their own PPC ads to capture leads:


These ads are labeled "Comparison Ads" and these ads are competing with other PPC lead collectors. When a consumer clicks on the PPC Comparison Ad for mortgages, a landing page for lead collection is displayed:

Lead Generation For Dealers

According to the Automotive News article written by David Barkholz:

"Google will establish a Web page for vehicle shoppers. Dealers will bid, through a Google auction, to be one of about three dealers listed on the page when shoppers fill out a discounted price request for, say, a 2012 Toyota Camry with some specifications. The shoppers choose which of the listed dealers will receive the lead and provide the price..."

This will be a game changer for businesses that use PPC for lead generation. Companies like Edmunds, Autotrader, and new comers like TrueCar that all use PPC as part of their lead generation strategy for new car buyers will be impacted.

Competition for new car leads just got more interesting, and for some, maybe more expensive.

This offering will need to be examined in greater detail when this official launches this in the Bay Area. We will have more details on this new offering after we get a briefing from the automotive team at Google.

How do you see this impacting your dealership?

I cut the cord. DEATH to TV!

I disagree with your assessment that "google reviews are a joke". It is poorly implemented but only industry stooges like us know that. The average consumer sees these reviews every time the dealer shows up in a search. They have a huge impact right now.  Trip Advisor, Yelp, dealerrater, citysearch are slowly moving away from the impact zone of where NEW consumers will see them and google is influencing this. As of right now the only way that potential customer will see a DealerRater review is if dealerrater shows up in a local search for the dealers name. The reason they show up is because they have review content that the dealer helped create by handing out cards. Once dealer stops influencing customers to go there and the page gets stale and it will fade from the first page...thanks to the new algorithm.

I cut the cord. DEATH to TV!

You make a great point. I think both you and Alex are correct and it comes down to demographics.

Go look at any keyword report for a dealership and you will see that a vast amount of traffic comes from the dealership name...which means that word of mouth, traditional media and that big neon sign out on the highway are creating awareness. The question is...who are these folks. I think these people are the 30 and over crowd that hasn't unplugged cable tv and are not skipping the commercials. These are the same people that are buying cars right now. 10 years from now the mix will be different and we will have more people who have unplugged. How will we make them  aware of a dealership's brand? dealerships better look good on google maps/places because your online rating may be the only opportunity to differentiate yourself.

BTW, The reason these guys(Travelocity,Orbitz,PriceLine,Kayak, AutoTrader.com) are pushing so hard on tv is because Google clipped their wings in SEO. You have to have a brick and mortar location to compete in most local search now-a-days...which forces these guys with budgets to buy adwords. This also clears the way for Google to be a player in any online marketing business...don't be surprised if we see an auto channel and travel coming from google soon.

-Michael Sos

I cut the cord. DEATH to TV!

Great post Alex.

If marketing "is based on your deeds," and I'm not disagreeing, then customer satisfaction with delivery and service had better be a big priority. Tom mentioned the ZMOT book. By definition, the Second Moment of Truth lasts for years in durable goods industries. We are not selling candy bars that are quickly consumed and identical to the previous one purchased. Shoppers modify their opinions of the products we sell them and the service we provide them over the course of ownership. 
I spoke earlier this week on a webinar about when to spend on traditional media and when not to. Branding is simply not as important as it once was, and it's harder to do right. Satisfaction during the ownership process is more important than ever, right up to and including the trade-in value. Dealerships can talk about social media as a cool and wonderful thing without earning deep relationships. That doesn't stop at the deal-closing handshake, it starts there.

I cut the cord. DEATH to TV!

Yep - don't get Gaddafi'd :)  

But on the positive side, start thinking about how you can get your customers speaking to their friends positively about you now.  This is why I mentioned "klout" in the article.  Try to recognize who has the most clout and do something above and beyond the call of duty to make yourself remarkable (read Seth Godin's Purple Cow).

And I just found out, directly from Facebook, that the average user now has 170 friends.  They'll be updating their numbers soon.

I cut the cord. DEATH to TV!

ahhh, I see... now I think I TOTALLY get it Alex.  Let me know if I got it:

Piss off a customer and they'll instantly hit FaceBook to vent among friends.  

The avg FB user has 130 friends.  Piss off 3 customers a week, that's 20,000 negative ads per year (not including pals replying).  And these negative ads are sticky (people remember them).

Ouch.
Year or 2 later, the Dealer can't explain why his business is soft, never knows what hit him and corrects the problem by spending $$$ to replace his lost traffic.   

hmmm... never thought about this silent killer.  damn scary stuff.

I cut the cord. DEATH to TV!

"Tomorrow’s advertising will be more about public relations than what we call marketing.  It will be based on your deeds.  It will be based on your image; your brand, and it will be shaped by your customers." Hit the nail on the head Alex!

Pulling 3 words out of this quote, we can get to the heart of the issue. We tend to use ADVERTISING and MARKETING interchangeably. We need to stop doing that and stop it today. Advertising and PUBLIC RELATIONS are both subsets of Marketing, today and in the past.

When Traditional Advertising was thriving, we had full control of our message. Customers today have much more power. The internet has given the average Joe much greater ability to "screw with" our message.

When you say "It will be based on your deeds" you couldn't be more correct. Customers today will talk about what we do, and pay much less attention to what we say. And they have a much louder voice than they ever had before. Public Relations and Social Media are inherently much better suited to two-way communication than Traditional Advertising.

It's all Marketing, but it's a profoundly different Marketing Landscape than 10 years ago.

I cut the cord. DEATH to TV!

I think you're missing the point Joe.  You seem to only be focusing on consumer reviews and that's just one small segment of what I'm talking about.  It is easy to focus on those though because they're black and white; they're readily visible.  I'm talking about a whole thing that is happening outside of your vision.  Neither you nor I can see it because it is happening behind a privacy net.  

All I'm saying is that you should be aware of it.  It isn't black and white; and it isn't apparent.  That thought should make you very uncomfortable by the way.  But if you're aware that it is happening (don't Gaddafi this one) then you'll concentrate your efforts on things that help to better your public relations perception (process, branding, reputation, etc.).

I cut the cord. DEATH to TV!

Speaking of TripAdvisor.com... when the founder of TripAdvisor sold out to Expedia (or similar), what industry did the co-founder Langley Steinert go to next?

CARS.

Did he build the TripAdvisor of the auto industry? No.  He built cargurus.com  NOTE: Langley Steinert came to DealerRefresh's forums back in 2010 http://forum.dealerrefresh.com/f44/used-cars-cargurus-com-vauto-travel-industry-916-2.html#post7685 to address my post about his business.

I cut the cord. DEATH to TV!

IMO JQ, the future is right here: 

"Reviews need to ride along side the product offering (Like Yelp or TripAdvisor) for the synergy to work."

When we're on TripAdvisor or Yelp... ready to MAKE A DECISION, reviews are a search filter (i.e. hotel near MCO, with 4 stars or higher but <200$). Then,  when the list gets real short, reviews are the tie breaker.  

Our industry never got a "founding player" that could marry products with reviews. 'Trader and Cars have arrived late and have buried the reviews taking it away from the search criteria (i.e. SUV with Nav from dealer with 4stars or higher but under $20k).

I cut the cord. DEATH to TV!

I agree with you Joe that today, it's nowhere near the "impact zone" for car dealers -- especially Facebook and some of the review sites.

But I do agree with Alex that the train is a'comming.  Especially when you stop equating "Facebook" with the bulk of the power of "Social."  I think Social is a whole lot more than Facebook.  I really believe Facebook is just today's shiny rock -- something bigger and better will come along in due time and replace it.  But "Social" in the larger context will continue (but probably labeled under a new buzz-word :))

I cut the cord. DEATH to TV!

Alex, you wrote:

"Tomorrow’s advertising will be more about public relations than what we call marketing.  It will be based on your deeds.  It will be based on your image; your brand, and it will be shaped by your customers.  We’re starting to see the power of consumer reviews.  For car dealers, the power of reviews is still in its infancy.  For restaurants, it is full bore"

Pull Advertising is social media based advertising (i.e. reviews).

IMO, reviews in our space is fragmented and lacks impact not because shoppers aren't interested, it's because our industry never had a yelp or TripAdvisor.com to fill the void.  

Google Reviews are a joke. Reviews need to ride along side the product offering (Like Yelp or TripAdvisor) for the synergy to work.

Did I get it right?

I cut the cord. DEATH to TV!

Thoughtful article, Alex.  I can't argue with anything, other than perhaps the impact of Facebook (and I'm wondering where you got that picture of my TV). I like the idea of "Pull."  I think you can build some impactful strategies around the notion of "Pull."

I've been thinking about this quite a bit.  I can't get past the fact that "Social Media" is simply a new buzzword for "Word of Mouth."

And this is the thing:  Word of Mouth has always been THE BIGGEST source of reputation management and advertising influence that exists.  Because you can now measure and track (somewhat) Word of Mouth on Facebook, are businesses that have always paid attention to their reputation and standing in the community -- businesses that "Do It Right" for the right reasons -- impacted by Facebook?  I really don't think so.

Now, here's where I see Social having the impact: the Schlock businesses.  You know what I mean -- the slam-bangers, Tires for Life, the "Sign Here" while their arm is over the contract guys.  The ones that don't care about repeat and referral business.  I can see Social having a "leveling" effect in that it may force an onus on actual customer service once they figure-out that there's no real way to spin the "reports."

When that happens -- and it will be QUITE a while -- the businesses that have always done it right will then be negatively impacted: social will force the next great consumer movement: excellent customer service everywhere. Great for consumers.  But the good ones -- the ones that have always been good -- will lose their edge.

All theoretical and hypothetical, of course -- as you know, I have no experience in reality :)

I cut the cord. DEATH to TV!

Just to stirr things up, I'll take the other side of the argument.

Take a moment and think if you've seen the TV commercials for Internet Giants:
-Travelocity.
-Orbitz.
-PriceLine
-Kayak.
-Expedia.
-hotels.com
-TD Ameritrade
-Schwab 
-Etrade (the talking baby ads)
-AutoTrader.com
-and on and on

Compare that to the poster child of "Pull Marketing", TripAdvisor.com

Push vs Pull.
Why in the world would Internet ONLY companies embrace old school TV (Push)?  Why have they not abandoned push and gone to the cheaper pull marketing?

PUSH MARKETING is all about sending out a branding message with a goal to influence the use of the Internet.  

PULL MARKETING works best if your business is special and your site can communicate your unique biz model.

For car dealers, Old School Push branding messages can work if you have the business profile to make it work for you.  The vast majority of dealers donot have the "ideal profile" for push marketing.  

To further complicate things, Pull marketing can work for them, but, just like TripAdvisor.com, for pull marketing to work, your website had best deliver a meaningful message to your website visitor.

Add to this, how many car dealers can really make their site so special that it "rings the bell" for the pull visitor?

I cut the cord. DEATH to TV!

broken_tv.jpgThat title might be slightly inaccurate, as it really should say DEATH to cable.

I cut cable TV out of my life about a year and a half ago.  It is all Internet for me.  Admittedly, it has driven my chicken wing and alcoholic beverage consumption up because I have to go to the local sports bar to catch a game, but I'm not complaining.

I'm not writing this article to talk about my experiences in relying solely on the Internet to deliver anything and everything to my TV - you can catch that here.  I'm writing about how the TV was my last connection to the 3 big boys of traditional local marketing (Newspaper, Radio, Television).

Yes, I agree with you, I am a bit ahead of the norm.

As more and more people shy away from our marketing comfort zones how are we to get our messages out going forward?  Sure, there is PPC, SEO, billboards, display ads and all that jank.  But what we should really be talking about is a revolution in marketing.  This is a revolution that is going to rip advertising to its core.  It isn't about shifting mediums; it is about a complete and utter shift in delivery.  And guess who isn't in control anymore:  you the marketer.

Today's marketing is about Push.  Tomorrow's marketing is about Pull.

Today we push our message to a broad group of people as far as we can reach.  It doesn't matter what media it is, we are simply trying to get as many eyeballs on our message as possible.  That has been the basic way marketing has been practiced ever since we were able to purchase ads.

Consumers are shying away from this method.  Supply is plentiful, deals are only a few clicks away, and your loud voice is just an annoying interruption.

Tomorrow's advertising will be more about public relations than what we call marketing.  It will be based on your deeds.  It will be based on your image; your brand, and it will be shaped by your customers.  We're starting to see the power of consumer reviews.  For car dealers, the power of reviews is still in its infancy.  For restaurants, it is full bore.

But there is another piece we can't see.  It is a piece that lives behind privacy and topples governments.  It is social media and it is mostly Facebook.  For the first time individuals can quickly and easily rely on a lot of their friends to help them make purchase decisions.  These aren't just decisions about cars.  Your friends are asking for advice on virtually everything.  Think of some of the questions as practice for when they really start looking for suggestions that have massive impact on the way local businesses are viewed.  If you're on Facebook, you've seen your friends ask for advice.  I see it every time I view my news feed.  People flock to the most influential; the one with the most "klout" on that particular topic.  This is the person you're going to see marketers flock to as well.

It is just the beginning.  Be cognizant of it.  As marketers, understand this is going to reshape the messages we send.  Don't be the next Middle Eastern dictator.

P.S.  Have you ever noticed how DealerRefresh has had some major impact on various automotive vendors?

B2B "Social" - Industry Example. Kudos to Cobalt.

I met a very nice woman from Cobalt/ADP here a couple weeks ago when she visited with our ADP rep (unfortunately, I can't remember her name -- mostly because I really don't know our ADP rep anymore and I can't remember his name to look-up the email).  

But I do remember her message: "This isn't your Father's Cobalt anymore."  I'm reading what Eric said above about more not commenting.  I've read this a few times, and honestly, something just doesn't quite sit right here with me.  But I'm thinking that maybe it's just that old, bad taste in my mouth.
I won't mention her name, but I very much remember the name of the Cobalt rep that was banned from our facility for for trying to get our OEM reps to tell us that we had to use Cobalt websites -- 10+ years ago.

But given the recent interaction with the delightful Jade and (damn, I wish I could find her card!!!) our New Cobalt rep, and after thinking about it for a few days, I'm going to be optimistic, and simply realize that although one deed does not a new company make, perhaps they have manifested a culture shift, and maybe we can expect better things.

They can have the benefit of the doubt... for now.

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