That has already been considered Mitchell. Jeff is with neither company nor has ever been. I, however, am an iMaigcLab client and because of that will be taking a side role to Jeff on this one.
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Sean Wolfington Accepts Chairman of the Board of VinSolutions
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I use neither of these 2 CRM's.
I doubt a Higher Gear or Auotbase user would even understand nor recognize the features in a progressive CRM such at iMagic or Vinsolutions. Ahhhh freedom.
I doubt a Higher Gear or Auotbase user would even understand nor recognize the features in a progressive CRM such at iMagic or Vinsolutions. Ahhhh freedom.
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But having someone affiliated with one of the contestants no matter how small a role is just not fair play. I agree that if the point of the Bakeoff is to see which program would benefit dealers more then it must be judged by impartial dealers at a live event and other CRM vendors need to be included. (Not Higher Gear or Autobase though) The problem with this whole thing is that the people setting it up are also the people judging and the people running the forum so there will always be the feeling of impropriety even if there isn't any.
Move it over to a more impartial forum like Auto Dealer Monthly or Kain or ADM and let good dealers without affiliation with either program judge. I'd love to see an impartial contest but there's no way for it to be impartial this way!
Move it over to a more impartial forum like Auto Dealer Monthly or Kain or ADM and let good dealers without affiliation with either program judge. I'd love to see an impartial contest but there's no way for it to be impartial this way!
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We are proposing 4 of us in a room with 1 computer that will be used for the "bake off". Exact same computer, same OS and same agreed upon browser.
The session will be recorded on video and the computer sessions will be screencasted and cut for one final video with all attendees approval.
Myself or anyone will NOT be judging but only asking questions and performing tests to be sure there is nothing biased.
I repeat, you can call US moderators but we will NOT be judges .. the dealers will be the judge. It's that simple.
P.S. Mitchell - "Move it over to a more impartial forum like Auto Dealer Monthly or Kain or ADM and let good dealers without affiliation with either program judge." Really? I'm not sure where that statement comes from. Again, we will NOT be judging.
I too would be good for March 25th – 29th.
The session will be recorded on video and the computer sessions will be screencasted and cut for one final video with all attendees approval.
Myself or anyone will NOT be judging but only asking questions and performing tests to be sure there is nothing biased.
I repeat, you can call US moderators but we will NOT be judges .. the dealers will be the judge. It's that simple.
P.S. Mitchell - "Move it over to a more impartial forum like Auto Dealer Monthly or Kain or ADM and let good dealers without affiliation with either program judge." Really? I'm not sure where that statement comes from. Again, we will NOT be judging.
I too would be good for March 25th – 29th.
A CRM duel! Sounds fantastic, especially since my hometown is the aforementioned, Weehawken, NJ.
HA! Can't wait to watch.
HA! Can't wait to watch.
Guys I will make my schedule available any days but the 24th but I need to know. This "I am in a meeting" stuff doesn't cut it. Last I checked the Internet was available "down south" or wherever Sean is. He wasn't too busy to claim he was "years" ahead and he wasn't too busy to accept the dual....
Come on Sean, let's do this.
Richard Keith Latman
Chief Executive Officer
iMagicLab LLC
www.imagiclab.com
Come on Sean, let's do this.
Richard Keith Latman
Chief Executive Officer
iMagicLab LLC
www.imagiclab.com
Moderators? 4 people in a room? What will they discuss? Politics and exchange pie recipes? Sean would never agree to this!
You are going to let this be recorded and edited? Never going to happen.
If something like this were ever to go down, it would have to be live, in a dealership, a prospective client. The better tool walks out with a check in hand for full boat.
Putting Sean in a room with 4 people would be like caging up a lion in the wild. It would be like me throwing you the keys to a Ferrari with no engine.
You are going to let this be recorded and edited? Never going to happen.
If something like this were ever to go down, it would have to be live, in a dealership, a prospective client. The better tool walks out with a check in hand for full boat.
Putting Sean in a room with 4 people would be like caging up a lion in the wild. It would be like me throwing you the keys to a Ferrari with no engine.
I hope someone records this for those of us that can't watch this play out live? Will you be taking questions from people not actually participating live?
Only problem is, who are the other companies that will demo alongside imagic? Vinsolutions' CRM is just one piece of the profit performing machine.. Everyone adds a customer, and sends out emails. Vinsolutions will have to dumb down a demo to just show CRM.
Ahhh and here comes the VIN paid poster folks.
Christian get your boss Sean to show up and we'll go against every "profit performing" piece you have. We'll easily match up against everything you have and then school you about a thing or two. You've obviously never seen DealerCRM.
I am not responding again, this is turning to a waste of time. It's put up or shut up time
Christian get your boss Sean to show up and we'll go against every "profit performing" piece you have. We'll easily match up against everything you have and then school you about a thing or two. You've obviously never seen DealerCRM.
I am not responding again, this is turning to a waste of time. It's put up or shut up time
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The thread announces Sean Wolfington joining VinSolutions as Chairman of the Board, but quickly pivots into a heated debate over a proposed live product 'bake-off' between VinSolutions and iMagicLab. iMagicLab's Richard Keith Latman publicly challenges VinSolutions to a head-to-head demo comparison moderated by DealerRefresh's Jeff and Alex, accusing VinSolutions of avoiding the matchup, while community members debate format fairness and whether either side is genuinely willing to compete transparently.
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